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RACER X
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 Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 6:49 am Post subject: KIP TO SELL 3000 TO XEROX? |
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Can anyone confirm what we have heard: KIP is going to sell the 3000 to Xerox. If true, this could bring back Xerox from the brink and make life interesting.
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| Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 4:49 am Post subject: |
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| I saw mention of an upcoming Xerox 610 system to compete with the 3000 and Ricoh 240. Unsure if that is related to your question. |
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| Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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| This is incorrect. Xerox could of had the option with the KIP 3000 but Xerox did not renew a three year deal with KIP on the 8000. Xerox is now all fuji boxes with the Jap software. Xerox will have a new high end unit coming out shortly. |
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KIPROD
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| Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 12:41 am Post subject: what about the phantom? |
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Menace? I dont think so..... fuji boxes... remember 6030 and 6050???
If xerox has a phantom we have a RAPTOR F-22.. stop worrying....
SMOKE THEM!!! |
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KIP PhD
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| Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 9:39 am Post subject: 3000 |
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KIP can't even produce enough 3000's to supply their own dealers. KIP has made progress in converting many Xerox dealers to KIP. Giving Xerox the 3000 would send many of them back to Xerox, which might not be so bad.
Not likely though, not even KIP is that arrogant to sell out their dealers. The Xerox name is now garbage in WF, let it stay that way. |
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| Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Anonymous wrote: |
| I saw mention of an upcoming Xerox 610 system to compete with the 3000 and Ricoh 240. Unsure if that is related to your question. |
I know that Xerox does have a box coming out that will compete in the low end arena.
We have a few techs that have now been trained on both boxes (we are Authorised dealers for both) |
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kiprod
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| Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 7:09 pm Post subject: phantom pics |
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| i have pics of the phantom i dont know how to upload them here, kip dr let me know where to send them.. |
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KIPDOCTOR
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| Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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e mail them to [email protected] and I will get them up here
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REPRODOGGIE
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| Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 10:42 am Post subject: KIP 3000 |
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Yes it is. Thanks for posting it here. You have been a welcome addition to the forum.
Depending on the price, this may send a lot of Xerox dealers who also have KIP back to Xerox, just to avoid the oversaturation (is that a word?) of KIP dealers in their area. They may even be able to make a decent margin on it as Xerox will be pulling out all the stops to regain dealers.
(treating dealers like customers, instead of sled dogs, imagine?)
But you know Xerox, they will screw it up somehow. |
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Neil Johnston
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| How much will it cost the end user? Are we talkin' 12k or 17k? |
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Neil Johnston
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| Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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similar specs to the 3000. Shipped in one piece (we have one on our floor (which means it can be 'built' in under an hour)).
4 d's a minute (with an option to go to 5)
up to 25k linear a month. (this is based on someone trained on 3000's and 6204's )
print quality like the 6030/50's, without the intial snafu's of the early Fuji Controllers.
Cost (from my understanding) will *directly* compete.
It has its flaws though. |
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kiptunes
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guest wrote
It has its flaws though.
anybody know what they are cause up here in Canada they are giving 60 months free service to customers and are only selling direct hard to beat
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KIP PhD
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| Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 8:05 am Post subject: KIP 3000 |
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| Most likely the cost of service is baked into either the lease, or more likely contingent upon the purchase of supply kits. Attack on cost per copy. Sell the responsiveness of smaller company and personal service. Most people are smart enough to know that nothing is free, make them realize this. |
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