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GR81
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Joined: 09 Sep 2005
Posts: 431
Location: MN
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 Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 12:11 pm Post subject: New KIP product |
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I got a tip that KIP is coming out with a new product for the IRGA show.
It's not the color 80 again.
Unfortunately I do not know what the product is.
Has anyone got a lead on this? |
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KIPDOCTOR
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Joined: 31 Dec 1969
Posts: 1408
Location: Boston Area
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| Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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A plotter that works maybe? Oh no, how about some good documentation on the software and getting it all set up correctly? Whoops, almost forgot this is KIP.
Sorry, I have just spent two days installing a new 5000 and 3000 we just sold. The amount of time I wasted due to lack of GOOD documentation was amazing. I now know how all of you dealers have felt for a long time. I feel your pain.
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pq
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Joined: 24 Jun 2005
Posts: 231
Location: Northern California
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| Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 12:29 am Post subject: |
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Doc,
Curious where you felt the docs were lacking. No secret that has been an area of weakness but it has improved, especially in the last year or so. Within the past few months somebody at the Ranch came up with dedicated Guides for each area of the software: Windows Driver, Request, PrintNet, AutoCAD Driver, etc., and published them in nice PDFs with a table of contents.
Much better than the bloated User Manual.
What would be helpful is to have a Quickstart Guide (like they did for the 2200 scanner), one designed for the installing tech and one for the user, sort of an FAQ, e.g. "How do I copy a roll of drawings and make 5 sets," or "What functions are customizable for a user versus an administrator..."
What I've found myself doing over the past 2+ years since the first IPS came out was to screenshot various tasks with headlines and PDF that and store on my USB disk for quick reference. Stopped using the User Guide long ago....
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GR81
doctor
Joined: 09 Sep 2005
Posts: 431
Location: MN
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| Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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It's the KIP 3100!!
Sounds like a great machine! |
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cezwhat
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Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Posts: 221
Location: On the Prairie
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| Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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Yes 0h GR81, it is a KIP 3100 (it's the 3K @ 6 pages per minute) Just got the launch mailing today, Same pricing as the 3K available in June (KIPtime August/September) along with the 3000 blow out sale promo
get them before thier gone! They are offering an interesting new catch tray for the originals and output. |
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pq
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Joined: 24 Jun 2005
Posts: 231
Location: Northern California
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| Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 4:17 am Post subject: |
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Also:
-no more long spindle - using "end caps" to hold paper like Ricoh.
-realtime scan file naming
These features, along with the 50% speed bump and lower cost for toner, are a great set of improvements for the 3000 that first came out in Oct 05. It was time for a refresh and it hits on some key points.
I noticed the scanner looks like the 600, which we know sits on top of a 5000 or 7000. I'm predicting a 3050 system (printer only) in the not-to-distance future and the final death blow to the 2000.
Definitely keeps the edge over the comps! |
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KIPDOCTOR
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Joined: 31 Dec 1969
Posts: 1408
Location: Boston Area
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| Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 7:57 am Post subject: |
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this is all good news from the ranch. Does anyone know when the discounts on the 3000 units will start?
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cezwhat
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| Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 10:36 am Post subject: |
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May 1, 2008
There is special pricing for mono and color machines, but you have to buy at least two machines. I just ordered a couple myself.
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pq
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| Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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| If I read the promo page right, this is for the existing 3000, not to pre-order the 3100s, right? |
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cezwhat
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| Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 12:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Yes KIP is purging the system of KIP 3000 with the promo pricing. |
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jimbeau
dreaming of medical school
Joined: 23 May 2007
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| Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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| I noticed in the mailer that the toner was a different number than the 3000 toner. Does that mean more developer improvements, or just to confuse us by mistakenly putting the wrong type of toner in? |
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CHILLIN
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Joined: 05 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Or could it be like the 9000 toner cartridge that has some sort chip under the label that is read by the machine so you don't use generic toner. |
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KIPDOCTOR
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Joined: 31 Dec 1969
Posts: 1408
Location: Boston Area
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| Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 10:15 am Post subject: |
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By the way, the generic toner guys are already working on bypassing this security chip. In their words, "it is a minor annoyance, HP has done it for years". They already have all the technical information on the 9000 like schematics and stuff. Won't be long.
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